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Would you trade away Watson Or L Jackson

footballchixfootballchix Posts: 911
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If you had both QB, which QB would you trade away for picks or players? No current offers

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  • Doobie_SnacksDoobie_Snacks Posts: 3,007
    edited November 2019
    I'd rather have Watson and trade Lamar while his stock is sky high
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  • TripleThreatTripleThreat Posts: 660
    I would keep Watson and trade away Jackson.
  • GuinnessIsGoodForYouGuinnessIsGoodForYou Posts: 9,407
    Agree with these guys. Lamar Jackson is a gimmicky player - as talented as he is, I would rather have Watson as my long term QB and like everyone else said, you could get a lot more value from Jackson right now.

  • XtremeXtreme Posts: 5,185
    Keep Watson
  • IcemanIceman Posts: 6,068
    Watson for me as well.
  • Whos_Ur_DoggieWhos_Ur_Doggie Posts: 5,265
    Pilling on the Watson train.
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  • OdellBeckhamSrOdellBeckhamSr Posts: 3,360
    I would keep both until someone is willing to overpay. Which they should for one of those guys.
  • chuckeycharleschuckeycharles Posts: 6,278
    edited November 2019
    Watson would be the QB I would retain as I still don't believe in Jackson

    But as OBS suggested make it highway robbery.
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  • HellAtlanticHellAtlantic Posts: 1,392
    Just traded Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson and a low 2020 2nd round rookie pick for Sony Michel, Kerryon and a high 2020 2nd round rookie pick. I’m in last place and while I liked having Lamar it really was a waste of a great player when i could acquire some *cheap* but good RBs and the high 2nd round pick will help. I already have 4 2020 1st round rookie picks and I’m not keen on having like 10 rookies. Between Sony, Kerryon and Miles Sanders and the 4 2020 1sts I’m going to be *loaded* at RB.

    I probably could have got a little more but half the league is in sell mode as many guys try to acquire keepable assets by selling to the teams in contention so that limited the # of teams I had to potentially do a deal with.
  • Doobie_SnacksDoobie_Snacks Posts: 3,007
    HellAtlantic said:

    Just traded Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson and a low 2020 2nd round rookie pick for Sony Michel, Kerryon and a high 2020 2nd round rookie pick. I’m in last place and while I liked having Lamar it really was a waste of a great player when i could acquire some *cheap* but good RBs and the high 2nd round pick will help. I already have 4 2020 1st round rookie picks and I’m not keen on having like 10 rookies. Between Sony, Kerryon and Miles Sanders and the 4 2020 1sts I’m going to be *loaded* at RB.

    I probably could have got a little more but half the league is in sell mode as many guys try to acquire keepable assets by selling to the teams in contention so that limited the # of teams I had to potentially do a deal with.

    Personally I'd rather have Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson then Sony Michel & Kerryon Johnson. I don't want any part of Patriots backfield and Kerryon Johnson has never been great fantasy RB. Hope it works out for you.
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  • XtremeXtreme Posts: 5,185
    Doobie_Snacks said:

    HellAtlantic said:

    Just traded Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson and a low 2020 2nd round rookie pick for Sony Michel, Kerryon and a high 2020 2nd round rookie pick. I’m in last place and while I liked having Lamar it really was a waste of a great player when i could acquire some *cheap* but good RBs and the high 2nd round pick will help. I already have 4 2020 1st round rookie picks and I’m not keen on having like 10 rookies. Between Sony, Kerryon and Miles Sanders and the 4 2020 1sts I’m going to be *loaded* at RB.

    I probably could have got a little more but half the league is in sell mode as many guys try to acquire keepable assets by selling to the teams in contention so that limited the # of teams I had to potentially do a deal with.

    Personally I'd rather have Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson then Sony Michel & Kerryon Johnson. I don't want any part of Patriots backfield and Kerryon Johnson has never been great fantasy RB. Hope it works out for you.
    Agreed...that was a sell low.
  • HellAtlanticHellAtlantic Posts: 1,392
    I get what you’re saying. You have to consider the league. In a vacuum yes this was a not the best return. Factor that out of 10 teams, about 6 are out of it. They are sellers at this point. So that means they are now in the phase of trying to acquire as many dynasty assets as possible. They are not teams I can offer Lamar to because they wouldn’t want to give up the assets necessary. So that leaves about 4 teams. 1 of those 4 I don’t deal with. That leaves 3 teams. Of those 3 teams one has Russell Wilson and the other has Watson. They have no need for Lamar. That leaves that last team - they have *no* assets. So you make the deal that’s in front of you. It’s a 10 team league so QBs are in abundance. RBs? Not so much.
  • TripleThreatTripleThreat Posts: 660
    Agree with the last 2 posts. Lamar should land you more..
  • Doobie_SnacksDoobie_Snacks Posts: 3,007
    HellAtlantic said:

    I get what you’re saying. You have to consider the league. In a vacuum yes this was a not the best return. Factor that out of 10 teams, about 6 are out of it. They are sellers at this point. So that means they are now in the phase of trying to acquire as many dynasty assets as possible. They are not teams I can offer Lamar to because they wouldn’t want to give up the assets necessary. So that leaves about 4 teams. 1 of those 4 I don’t deal with. That leaves 3 teams. Of those 3 teams one has Russell Wilson and the other has Watson. They have no need for Lamar. That leaves that last team - they have *no* assets. So you make the deal that’s in front of you. It’s a 10 team league so QBs are in abundance. RBs? Not so much.

    Being dynasty you could have waited tell next year to deal Lamar when could have got more. Why feel had to sell this year? Different league rules I'm not aware of?
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  • HellAtlanticHellAtlantic Posts: 1,392
    Hyde and Duke to me were never going to be kept, so I essentially gave up Lamar for Sony and Kerryon. A team that thinks they are in it will want to acquire Lamar during the season as teams jockey for playoff contention, in the offseason the mentality will revert to “QBs are overvalued in this league, RBs are more valuable”. But I get it, the trade looks lopsided.
  • XtremeXtreme Posts: 5,185
    HellAtlantic said:

    Hyde and Duke to me were never going to be kept, so I essentially gave up Lamar for Sony and Kerryon. A team that thinks they are in it will want to acquire Lamar during the season as teams jockey for playoff contention, in the offseason the mentality will revert to “QBs are overvalued in this league, RBs are more valuable”. But I get it, the trade looks lopsided.

    So is your league a keeper league or dynasty?
  • footballchixfootballchix Posts: 911
    HellAtlantic said:

    Just traded Lamar, Hyde, Duke Johnson and a low 2020 2nd round rookie pick for Sony Michel, Kerryon and a high 2020 2nd round rookie pick. I’m in last place and while I liked having Lamar it really was a waste of a great player when i could acquire some *cheap* but good RBs and the high 2nd round pick will help. I already have 4 2020 1st round rookie picks and I’m not keen on having like 10 rookies. Between Sony, Kerryon and Miles Sanders and the 4 2020 1sts I’m going to be *loaded* at RB.

    Loading up for 2021 draft would had been my aim at that point.

  • XtremeXtreme Posts: 5,185
    edited November 2019
    "loaded" at RB, but with options you won't want to start weekly, especially in a 10-team league (you will hurt yourself if you start Michel and/or K.Johnson weekly). I would have kept the elite QB and then looked to RB with the rookie picks.
  • Doobie_SnacksDoobie_Snacks Posts: 3,007
    edited November 2019
    Xtreme said:

    "loaded" at RB, but with options you won't want to start weekly, especially in a 10-team league (you will hurt yourself if you start Michel and/or K.Johnson weekly). I would have kept the elite QB and then looked to RB with the rookie picks.

    Exactly
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  • GuinnessIsGoodForYouGuinnessIsGoodForYou Posts: 9,407
    They’ve got you covered. I would have rather kept him until next year at that price. However, you seem happy with it, therefore - so am I.

  • lords0fpainlords0fpain Posts: 34
    Just a good back for when Watson (or Lamar) gets hurt. Both their playstyles, up the chance of injury.
  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 12,174
    GuinnessIsGoodForYou said:

    Agree with these guys. Lamar Jackson is a gimmicky player - as talented as he is, I would rather have Watson as my long term QB and like everyone else said, you could get a lot more value from Jackson right now.

    The gimmick seems to be working though
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  • the_FULL_effectthe_FULL_effect Posts: 1,921
    I agree with everyone. You sold Lamar for less than you should have been able to. I also agree that it's a good move for you. Who knows how any of those players shape up next year, but it's always good to have a stable of rbs and if that comes at the cost of the best backup qb in the league, so be it.

    Ideally I would have had a choice of better rb or higher draft pick, but sometimes the market is what it is.
  • KookaburraKookaburra Posts: 1,653
    I wouldn't trade either of them unless the return was ridiculous.
  • swampiesswampies Posts: 4,239
    Jackson is ill right now FYI and might not play this weekend
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  • HellAtlanticHellAtlantic Posts: 1,392
    edited November 2019
    the_FULL_effect said:

    I agree with everyone. You sold Lamar for less than you should have been able to. I also agree that it's a good move for you. Who knows how any of those players shape up next year, but it's always good to have a stable of rbs and if that comes at the cost of the best backup qb in the league, so be it.

    Ideally I would have had a choice of better rb or higher draft pick, but sometimes the market is what it is.

    Thanks. As a point of reference here’s an example of a trade in my league that was recently made, again we’re in the phase where teams become buyers and teams become sellers (so in essence if you decide you’re no longer in it you aren’t going to give up keepable assets for a stud):

    Team A trades Julio Jones, Team B trades Courtland Sutton and TY Hilton. By all measures this is a horrible trade for Team A *on paper* but again if no one is buying you’re forced to make the trade that’s in front of you otherwise if you keep that stud at a higher price you won’t be able to field a decent team.

    Here’s another trade: Team A (this is the same team that had Julio) trades: Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset, Team B trades: DJ Moore, Mecole Hardman, Jimmy Garapolo and Josh Gordon. Meh.

    So Team A trades Julio Jones, Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset and only gets in return a total of Courtland Sutton, Hilton, DJ Moore, Mecole, Jimmy G and Josh Gordon.

    There’s only a few teams that have a perfect profile of having the incentive to acquire studs and also have trade commodities to give in return so that limits your haul you get in return. You can easily say “well just don’t trade the stud then if that’s all you can get for him” but you will likely lose the stud for nothing if you can’t keep him on your team. I could’ve kept Lamar and next yr he’d around $16 which is what top QBs typically go for but two yrs from now when he goes up to $26 it’d be hard to justify keeping him at that salary in a 10 team 1 QB league.
  • Doobie_SnacksDoobie_Snacks Posts: 3,007
    HellAtlantic said:

    the_FULL_effect said:

    I agree with everyone. You sold Lamar for less than you should have been able to. I also agree that it's a good move for you. Who knows how any of those players shape up next year, but it's always good to have a stable of rbs and if that comes at the cost of the best backup qb in the league, so be it.

    Ideally I would have had a choice of better rb or higher draft pick, but sometimes the market is what it is.

    Thanks. As a point of reference: here’s an example of a trade in my league that was recently made, again we’re in the phase where teams become buyers and teams become sellers (so in essence if you decide you’re no longer in it you aren’t going to give up keepable assets for a stud):

    Team A trades Julio Jones, Team B trades Courtland Sutton and TY Hilton. I suspect Hilton was included to make it work for salary cap purposes. By all measures this is a horrible trade for Team A *on paper* but again if no one is buying you’re forced to make the trade that’s in front of you otherwise if you keep that stud at a higher price you won’t be able to field a decent team.

    Here’s another trade: Team A (this is the same team that had Julio) trades: Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset, Team B trades: DJ Moore, Mecole Hardman, Jimmy Garapolo and Josh Gordon. Meh.

    So Team A trades Julio Jones, Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset and only gets in return a total of Courtland Sutton, Hilton, DJ Moore, Mecole, Jimmy G and Josh Gordon.

    There’s only a few teams that have a perfect profile of having the incentive to acquire studs and also have trade commodities to give in return.
    I think what most people are saying is you didnt have to trade either QB this year. You could have kept and waited tell you got more value next year instead of selling so low. You basically gave him away imo
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  • footballchixfootballchix Posts: 911
    HellAtlantic said:

    the_FULL_effect said:



    Team A trades Julio Jones, Team B trades Courtland Sutton and TY Hilton. By all measures this is a horrible trade for Team A *on paper* but again if no one is buying you’re forced to make the trade that’s in front of you otherwise if you keep that stud at a higher price you won’t be able to field a decent team.

    Here’s another trade: Team A (this is the same team that had Julio) trades: Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset, Team B trades: DJ Moore, Mecole Hardman, Jimmy Garapolo and Josh Gordon. Meh.

    So Team A trades Julio Jones, Michael Thomas and Jacoby Brisset and only gets in return a total of Courtland Sutton, Hilton, DJ Moore, Mecole, Jimmy G and Josh Gordon.



    The julio trade IMO Team B won.
    Michael Thomas trade...was not worth it unless their QB was Trubisky, Tannehill, Mayfield, Darnold or some other bad QB it does not make a lot of sense.

  • footballchixfootballchix Posts: 911
    I got some terrible offers and will keep both. L Jackson for tj hockensen and baker mayfield and no 😆.

  • XtremeXtreme Posts: 5,185
    footballchix said:

    I got some terrible offers and will keep both. L Jackson for tj hockensen and baker mayfield and no 😆.

    That offer would have looked really good...before the season started.
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