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OdellBeckhamSrOdellBeckhamSr Posts: 3,057
Gordon has informed Chargers either he gets a new contract or he is holding out.
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  • rabidbucfanrabidbucfan Posts: 4,268
    can you say Austin Ekeler

    If Gordon holds out Ekeler will step right in a produce solid numbers
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  • Hawk12Hawk12 Posts: 3,520
    wow, that came out of no where and very late to the off-season party.

    Holding out till he gets a new deal - demanding a trade if not - dude this is no good for Melvin Gordon owners in FF if no deal gets worked out
  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 11,186
    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.
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  • Hawk12Hawk12 Posts: 3,520
    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 11,186
    edited July 11
    Shitty move to do professionally. But any player (not named Mayfield) will understand why he's doing it. One injury can change everything. Luckily the Chargers have Ekeler to soften the fall.


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  • boyzballboyzball Posts: 1,224
    I think Gordon holding out into the season happens. He wants the money and security. I'm on the Justin Jackson train, he has low RB1 upside. Remember last year Jackson filled in for an inactive Gordon for what 2 wks last yr.
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  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 11,186
    edited July 11
    boyzball said:

    I think Gordon holding out into the season happens. He wants the money and security. I'm on the Justin Jackson train, he has low RB1 upside. Remember last year Jackson filled in for an inactive Gordon for what 2 wks last yr.

    If I remember correctly Austin Ekeler was out that game Jackson started. Ek boasts a 5.2 ypc and a proven pass catcher and solid pass protector out of the backfield. We could be looking at a split.


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  • MVPMVP Posts: 330
    WTCM said:

    Shitty move to do professionally. But any player (not named Mayfield) will understand why he's doing it. One injury can change everything. Luckily the Chargers have Ekeler to soften the fall.


    Great find
  • chuckeycharleschuckeycharles Posts: 6,030

    can you say Austin Ekeler

    If Gordon holds out Ekeler will step right in a produce solid numbers
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    Crap... Ekeler is not currently available in any of my leagues
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  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 11,186
    @chuckeycharles drop Barnes for him.
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  • IcemanIceman Posts: 4,865
    edited July 11

    WTCM
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    11:54AM edited 11:56AM Flag

    boyzball said:

    I think Gordon holding out into the season happens. He wants the money and security. I'm on the Justin Jackson train, he has low RB1 upside. Remember last year Jackson filled in for an inactive Gordon for what 2 wks last yr.

    If I remember correctly Austin Ekeler was out that game Jackson started. Ek boasts a 5.2 ypc and a proven pass catcher and solid pass protector out of the backfield. We could be looking at a split.



    Agree Crapman, This was written by Daniel Kelley in March of this year commenting on Ekeler being a free agent in 2020. Chargers backfield is full of uncertainty.




    Austin Ekeler, Los Angeles Chargers

    Counting the playoffs, Ekeler has topped 35 offensive snaps in a game in four of 32 career games. In those games, he has 129 rushing yards on 40 carries (3.10 yards per carry). In all his other games, he has 685 yards on 113 carries (6.06). Direct correlation? Maybe, maybe not. But as big a fan as I am of Ekeler (and I’m a big one), he’s not a guy I’m making a bell-cow back. His stock is what it is. He’s a flex option with DFS or best ball upside.










  • chuckeycharleschuckeycharles Posts: 6,030
    WTCM said:

    @chuckeycharles drop Barnes for him.

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    Ekeler is on a roster other than mine is my other leagues. I probably would not drop or trade anyone to speculate on him... not even Gronk.
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  • OdellBeckhamSrOdellBeckhamSr Posts: 3,057
    Ekeler is not a bell cow running back- too small & no way can his body hold up the punishment.
  • boyzballboyzball Posts: 1,224

    Ekeler is not a bell cow running back- too small & no way can his body hold up the punishment.

    What im saying!
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  • Rmadrid86Rmadrid86 Posts: 148

    can you say Austin Ekeler

    If Gordon holds out Ekeler will step right in a produce solid numbers
    https://sleeperu.com/forums/discussion/9522/los-angeles-chargers#latest

    In the games Gordon missed last year Ekeler proved why he is not a 3down back. Great receiving back but can’t handle an increased workload. Use this news to sell high on Ekeler
  • boyzballboyzball Posts: 1,224
    I believe Melvin IS getting traded!
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  • Rmadrid86Rmadrid86 Posts: 148
    To piggy back off my previous statement, Ekelers stats the 4 Weeks Gordon missed last year

    7. 12car/42y/0 , 5rec/26y/0
    13. 13car/21y/0 , 5rec/22y/0
    14. 15car/66y/1 , 2car/28y/0
    15. Hurt DNP
  • DAXDAX Posts: 1,633
    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
  • boyzballboyzball Posts: 1,224
    This is a smart move by Gordon. This is why the CBA is going to be changed. The NFL is trying to burn out players and pay them less money on 5 year contracts, looks like players have finally got some smarts. Bell sat out a year and landed upright in NY paid! We hate this but they like it!
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  • WTCMWTCM Posts: 11,186
    Duke Johnson just hired Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. DJ would be a perfect fit in baby blue
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  • G_MenG_Men Posts: 2,913
    WTCM said:

    Duke Johnson just hired Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. DJ would be a perfect fit in baby blue

    That’s interesting

  • Hawk12Hawk12 Posts: 3,520
    DAX said:

    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
    really, did that not work well for Leveon ? Yeah it got him exactly what he wanted, a big contract, Melvin is prob loking at that like a playbook for getting paid!
  • wickerkat1212wickerkat1212 Posts: 1,845
    Hawk12 said:

    DAX said:

    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
    really, did that not work well for Leveon ? Yeah it got him exactly what he wanted, a big contract, Melvin is prob loking at that like a playbook for getting paid!
    i actually thought bell ended up getting LESS in the end. or was it more guaranteed that he was seeking? can't remember.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-contract-details-revealed-heres-how-much-jets-new-star-may-have-lost-by-sitting-out-2018/

    Lost $19 mill by sitting out, got $5 mill more in guaranteed.
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  • boyzballboyzball Posts: 1,224
    Gordon and Duke possibly on the move, this changes things. Shares of Duke and Eklers/Jackson definitely rising!
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  • G_MenG_Men Posts: 2,913
    Hawk12 said:

    DAX said:

    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
    really, did that not work well for Leveon ? Yeah it got him exactly what he wanted, a big contract, Melvin is prob loking at that like a playbook for getting paid!
    I think it hurt him actually.. but was the safe play
  • G_MenG_Men Posts: 2,913

    Hawk12 said:

    DAX said:

    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
    really, did that not work well for Leveon ? Yeah it got him exactly what he wanted, a big contract, Melvin is prob loking at that like a playbook for getting paid!
    i actually thought bell ended up getting LESS in the end. or was it more guaranteed that he was seeking? can't remember.

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/leveon-bell-contract-details-revealed-heres-how-much-jets-new-star-may-have-lost-by-sitting-out-2018/

    Lost $19 mill by sitting out, got $5 mill more in guaranteed.
    Yep
  • DAXDAX Posts: 1,633
    Hawk12 said:

    DAX said:

    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    sitting out the season doesn't do him any good. he'll still be contracted to the chargers. he will need to come back after 10 games i think so he's credited for the year in his contract.
    really, did that not work well for Leveon ? Yeah it got him exactly what he wanted, a big contract, Melvin is prob loking at that like a playbook for getting paid!
    bell wasn't contracted to the stealers. he just couldn't sign with anyone else because the stealers franchise tagged him a second time. if gordon sits out the year he is still contracted to the chargers and won't be able to sign with another team next season.
  • lukeb5301lukeb5301 Posts: 2,032
    Hawk12 said:

    WTCM said:

    I think he knows he'll be given LeVeon Bell treatment and be run into the ground on his final year. He's never played a full season so he's securing his future bank.

    I think he's going to be given the Levon Bell treatment and sit out 2019, this is way late in the offseason, post-draft, post most free agents - the team has no way to react and fill the spot. Dbag move, selfish and self serving sure to secure his finances, but as a teammate, I'd be at his house and kicking him around a bit, and bring the entire O-line with me
    Forcing good RBs to sit on a rookie contract for 5 years when their prime is in their early 20s and a dbag selfish self serving move by NFL teams.
  • G_MenG_Men Posts: 2,913
    But smart from a business standpoint
  • farfromhomefarfromhome Posts: 1,641
    edited July 12
    Well.... Bell lost money by not playing last year but also didnt use any miles on his odometer.... One year of wear and tear on the body for a rb is huge... I will never fault players in any sport trying to get money... Go get yo money melvin...
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